Gaming In Georgia Already A Settled Question
This week’s Courier Herald column:
One of the biggest battles developing in the Georgia General Assembly this year is over the revival of a proposal to bring full scale casino gaming to the Peach State. The measure, which has been revised to bring two “destination resort” casinos, requires a change to the state’s constitution, and thus two thirds each of the Georgia House and Senate.
There are many with religious reservations to allowing this to become the law of the state. The origins of their position should be respected. There are a small handful of ministers in the legislature – and a couple more members that should be. They’re not going to be found in the “yes” column if and when this measure comes to a vote. This is stipulated.
The reality is, however, that the question before the Georgia General Assembly is not a moral one, but one of missed opportunity and diminishing tax revenues. The moral question was answered by voters in November 1992 when a constitutional amendment was passed creating the Georgia Lottery Corporation. Almost 60 Billion has been wagered legally in the state of Georgia since that time, legally. It has all been done through a state sponsored monopoly.
Many wish to make a distinction between the two. That may be comforting for some that want to be for the HOPE scholarship and for Pre-K classes funded by the state’s gaming monopoly. The result, however, is that the Georgia Lottery Corp already functions like a casino. Rather than having two facilities designed and located to attract tourists and conventioneers, the Georgia Lottery is available at every corner convenience store.
Evidence that the Georgia Lottery is already operating as a casino can be found in a separate measure introduced by Senate Majority Leader Bill Cowsert of Athens, who wants to mandate the Lottery Corporation return to days when 35% of revenues were retained by the state for HOPE and Pre-K. Today, the lottery is returning just under 25%.
The reason for the drop isn’t that the Lottery Corporation is adding additional overhead. It’s that the marketing is aimed at instant win scratch off games. Scratch off games, in order to attract more customers and hook them with the good feeling of winning, have higher odds of winning. They pay out more often in order to secure returning customers.
Thus, in order for the Lottery Corporation to maximize profits, they need to get more people playing, and winning, scratch off games. The belief is the more people play, the more they will experience the feeling of winning, and they will keep playing until their investment is gone. It’s entertainment value.
Unlike the proposed destination resort casinos which will cater to higher end customers and business travelers, scratch off games are targeted to every day Georgians – many of whom probably have higher needs for their money than a quick fix of entertainment at the corner store. It’s hard to understand the opposition to private corporations operating casinos when the state already does so – but instead targets Georgia’s lowest income earners – with little or no objection to this practice.
The moral question for the state has and is settled. On the question of gambling, we’re more than a little pregnant. We instead have a 24-year-old child that has put $18 Billion into a trust fund for the state’s education.
Thus, instead of having a debate over a settled question, the one we should be having is how to capture the roughly $600M spent by Georgians per year at casinos in neighboring states. We should be asking if gaming is a necessary ingredient to bring back some of the conventions lost from Atlanta to other venues like Comdex in Las Vegas. We should be asking if training more than 10,000 Georgians to work gaming tables would be a new boost to the average pay of our hospitality industry. And we should be debating if the revenues added to the state coffers are best used to shore up the HOPE scholarship fund, provide means tested scholarships, and/or dedicate new monies to the state’s struggling rural healthcare institutions.
That’s the discussion we need to be having. The debate over the morality of gaming in Georgia has long since been settled, as an entire generation of HOPE funded college graduates can attest. Let’s at least honor the needs of the next generation of Georgians by having the proper debate at this time.
Charlie Harper is the publisher of GeorgiaPol.com and the Executive Director of PolicyBEST, which focuses on policy issues of Business Climate, Education, Science & Medicine, and Transportation.
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Yes, casino gaming should have been a settled question years ago and I have yet to hear a logical argument against it. Also, diverting some of the revenue to rural healthcare is a good idea.
And now Indian gaming is gonna make another attempt to locate in Georgia. The last time they tried, Governor Barnes killed the plan pretty quick.
http://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/cherokee-county/indian-tribe-wants-to-return-to-ga-build-casino/493029142
I’ve linked to this before and will here again… This group, Central Atlanta Progress, represents business of downtown Atlanta and their argument is certainly not with the moral qualms of gambling. I respect all the Baptist pastors that marched down to the Gold Dome for the committee hearing but there is an argument against that is more than “it’s immoral.” In fact, as I think Charlie’s column makes evident, I think our Baptist friends may be doing other opponents a disservice by focusing on that side of the question.
This one is from the Macon Telegraph, summarizing a little of the report from the group I referenced above: http://www.macon.com/news/local/article126447604.html
Also, if you want a fun one – from the Atlantic: “A Good Way to Wreck a Local Economy: Build Casinos.”
From near the top: “Outside of Las Vegas—now home to only 20 percent of the nation’s casino industry—casino gambling has evolved into a downscale business. Affluent and educated people visit casinos less often than poorer people do for the same reasons that they smoke less and drink less and weigh less.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2014/08/a-good-way-to-wreck-a-local-economy-build-casinos/375691/
Adding a little context to that Macon Telegraph link. The full report is in there, so click on through for a longer read (very long). One of the items that most drew my attention was the “cannibalization” of existing area businesses.
More of the casino business will be local than is given credit and people aren’t necessarily going to be spending significantly more than they did before. That means existing business will lose money to a casino operator from out of state. That doesn’t seem good to me.
i think that the way to curb cannibalization would be for the casinos to be in places that complement existing draws and attractions, like a reservation casino in the north georgia mountains or building one near a convention center in savannah or on jekyl… i don’t think one can reasonably expect some casino to be built on i-16 suddenly turning dublin into a destination…
“i don’t think one can reasonably expect some casino to be built on i-16 suddenly turning dublin into a destination…”
I think you’re right and to their credit, I don’t think the casino lobbyists and their legislator allies are considering a Dublin or Thomaston casino… for now anyway.
It depends on what a community get’s out of the deal, which for this post we are going to use Savannah.
Although Savannah has a workable tourist industry and a growing hotel inventory, it has only one hotel located in walking distance to the convention center. All other rooms are across the river. Hutchinson Island is pricy land to developed. It needs a developer with deep pockets that willing to spend more and receive a better profit then you would from just a hotel. Enter a casino venue. Savannah gets an additional hotel, a casino floor, another major restaurant location and a music venue located adjacent to the existing convention center and golf course. The one hotel on Hutchinson Island can not handle the required rooms needed for a large scale convention without causing people to book rooms over in the historic district and spending less time on the convention floors with venders (who are the source of revenue to pay for most conventions). Even if the casino does not live up to all the profit and taxes, the hotel rooms will expand the number of conventions willing to book in the city.
Sounds like I need to start a water taxi biz down there. 🙂
We have 3 ferries working all the time moving about 4000 people a day. We even collapsed a ramp to a dock in November.
The CAP study is overall more positive than negative. The Atlantic City comparison is irrelevant. Atlantic City was a dump before gaming and will always be a dump.
The purpose of gaming in Georgia is to increase tax revenue and create new businesses which add to our economy.
“And we should be debating if the revenues added to the state coffers are best used to shore up the HOPE scholarship fund, provide means tested scholarships, and/or dedicate new monies to the state’s struggling rural healthcare institutions.”
Agree the debate should be on the state use of revenue and aware of your concern with the educracy – Why do you see these as the only choices for the use of the money ?
Second observation is on rural healthcare. As we move forward with staking out territory for the big hospitals and drugstores is it possible to require them to set up outpost clinics in return for approvals and some of this money ?
I’d say Casino’s have been a good thing for Biloxi. http://www.sunherald.com/news/business/casino-gambling/article123994539.html
reggon why it’s called ‘gaming,’ I thought it was good ole gambling
As someone who frequents casinos in other states,
give me a poker room with real cards *and* a legalized sportsbook or I’m not interested.
Back in 1992, the state lottery was approved by a close 52-48% statewide margin. Two-thirds of the state’s counties voted against it, but the proposal passed (in some cases easily) in the largest counties like DeKalb and Fulton. Even Cobb and Gwinnett, which were much more Republican in those days than now, backed the lottery. Casinos also carried the day in the 2012 GOP state primary (advisory question on the ballot), though by just half a percentage point. But if casinos were passing (even as only an advisory question) among GOP primary voters, who are more conservative than the state as a whole, one might think the issue would get a “thumbs up” in the general election, when turnout is much higher than in a primary.
Settled? Not by a long shot. Gambling is a vice that is addictive to some. Make it much easier by having it in their back yard and I guarantee you those that have this addiction will come. You want to increase Georgia revenues? Legalize Cannabis across the board. Hemp (which you can not get high from) can be used for construction and clothing. It is also a WEED, so it grows very fast and is resistant to most insects. Secondly, and just as important is Medical Cannabis. This stuff is great for a number of medical uses: Pain reliever (non-addictive alternative to opioids), Cancer (both cure and prevention), Epilepsy, PTSD, Fibromyalgia, Chrons disease …. The list goes ON and ON…. And it can be cheap, because it can be homegrown. Lastly, there is the Recreational use for ADULTS. You know the very same ones that would waste hundreds or thousands at a roulette table while being feed cheap liquor to dull their common sense.
i don’t see why both(gambling and cannabis) shouldn’t be legal for adults to decide if they want to partake or not…
My personal concerns, besides it not being the economic boom that proponents make it out to be, are twofold.
1) Our state, great as it is, and our leaders, “great” as they are, have not exactly developed a reputation for transparency and strong opposition to general shenanigans. This industry would blow the door open on increased shenanigans with a host of regulation that may or may not be influenced in unseen ways. See: Every other state that allows casinos.
2) I live not so far from Underground Atlanta, a potential site of the large county “destination resort” (which that name itself is outrageous). I have zero faith this would actually be good for that area and its residents. That is not exactly in a high income zone. How about we plop this thing in the Peachtree Battle Shopping Center and see what folks say?
No?
The final decision as to where to “plop” a casino will be made by your local elected officials with citizen input.
Are you allowed to have a no-smoking casino?
Sure. Just pass an indoor smoking ban. All of Ohio’s 4 casinos are smoke-free.
Comments above couldn’t be better for Beach, friends and lobbyists – if this is a typical sample, Very few care what the state does with the money – reality check?