DeKalb and Clayton Sheriff’s Offices Singled Out on ICE Policies
Two counties in Georgia were singled out by President Trump for policies that are non-compliant with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) cases that deal with illegal immigrants that are violent offenders. In two reports by 11Alive and Atlanta Business Chronicle, DeKalb County Sheriff Jeffery Mann is quoted saying,
“Our office complies with all federal and state laws regarding the detention of “alien” criminal suspects.
“To the extent that this agency can, we will continue to employ our limited, taxpayer-supported resources to assist ICE with its efforts to secure and detain “alien” criminal suspects in our community by providing advance inmate release notification. However, federal case law has determined that detaining inmates beyond lawful release without sufficient probable cause or a judicial warrant from ICE is a violation of constitutional law.”
Clayton County Sheriff Victor Hill did not respond to 11Alive’s request for comment, but the report from the White House showed the county as a “jurisdiction that has enacted policies that limit cooperation with ICE.”
The policies of both agencies fall into a gray area. In addition to ICE being a federal law enforcement agency that works daily with local agencies, in this case, they are specifically dealing with violent offenders. Both Sheriff’s offices are asking for the documents provided by ICE and additional warrants from local Superior Court Judges. Both the DeKalb and Clayton Sheriff’s Offices are tying up the court system further and providing opportunities for known dangerous criminals to be released from jail.
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So did “violation of constitutional law” just whiz by your fear-filled head?
Tired of brown people being used to distract from the Trump train wreck.
Well, as a “brown person” who is here legally, as are all of my family members, I am more than ok with illegal immigrants who have committed violent crimes being deported back to their country. No fear. And I am not denying there are parts of the new administration that I don’t agree with. But ICE is doing their job.
Perhaps you and yours are willing to be second class citizens but I am not willing to bypass legal niceties due to brown skin fear mongering.
No idea what you are trying to convey. A person “immigrates” to the U.S. illegally. Then that person who is here illegally commits a felony. And you’re OK with that? Got it.
You know what I’m not willing to do? Continue to put up with your drivel. I can’t remember one comment you’ve made where I’ve felt more informed or smarter for having read. I’m no longer going to subject our readers to your ignorance delivered with a combative, constantly negative tone. Bye.
The air is a bit fresher now that lightning has finally struck.
I think what he is trying to convey (but not so well) is that someone being held for ANY crime who is eligible for release (just as you or I or anyone else would per the crime committed) should not CONTINUE to be held without a warrant from a judge. We dont detain people in the US just because someone says so without some sort of warrant. It is discrimination of brown people if they are being singled out without just cause.
I would ask Theresa if she would be ok being held in a jail cell because someone thought you looked suspicious of being illegal? It happens more than most people want to admit.
Hopefully I conveyed something that is a tad bit more informative.
That is not what is happening. These people are being held because of a violent crime, drug possession and so on. They are then found to be here illegally and are then held until ICE can get them. Please share with me your information where police officers are stopping at the local bus stop and arresting Hispanics without cause and holding them. Please do share. You are talking about a hypothetical that is not happening. Theresa was talking about violent offenders. “I am more than ok with illegal immigrants who have committed violent crimes being deported back to their country.”
my understanding is a bit different than this- individuals are picked up for a crime, could be any crime really, and are held until they are release, through bail, e.g. But they are not just “found” to be here illegally. Some agency must discover that connection, and while some local sheriffs are willing to do that extra work, some don’t want to, for budgetary reasons, the priority/opportunity cost of the time and effort, or other reasons, incl. policitical ones. What bugs me is the idea that choosing not to do the extra work is seen as “non-compliance”. The program to more actively assist ICE is a voluntary one, and those who choose not to participate are not “non-compliant”.
Currently there are two programs in place.
1. Secure Communities is a program that identifies an illegal via the Homeland database which all local agencies access. Only Dekalb and Clayton in Ga. don’t fully comply.
2. 287G is a voluntary program currently used by four Georgia sheriff departments. Local officers are trained by ICE to indentify illegals that are not necessarily in the Homeland database.
And of course both programs only deal with individuals already under arrest for other crimes.
The key to all of this is…….. “And of course both programs only deal with individuals already under arrest for other crimes.”
You have other commenters here who go off with personal insults ALL the time and that day in and day out add NOTHING to the conversation and nothing is said to them. Please do some chastising of that kind of behaviour too.
I’ve given a few public warnings and our comments section, especially in Morning Reads, is now largely a thoughtless sewer of partisan pablum. I frankly don’t have the time or patience to deal with it right now. It may be largely beyond repair.
That said, Coastal had received several direct warnings. Her response to my comment last week about Jon demonstrated she has no compassion or thought for anyone here, but just comes by to leave a turd on Republicans’ doorsteps every day.
Her, lecturing Theresa about “brown people” was the last straw.
Others, from both parties, let her serve as your warning. EVERYONE here does this for free. Please don’t feel entitled to be an ass and ask us to work for you to have that privilege.
Message received. More constructive and less “libs”
Finally! Noway, would you please take Charlie some chocolates and flowers too?
You really are a piece of crap.
Is that informative? Doesnt seem so to me, if we are now judging on the informative content of comments. Its not very nice either.
Honestly don’t care. I know Theresa very well. CoastalCat’s comments pissed me off. It’s that simple.
go outside and pull some weeds…does wonders for “pissed off”. Much better than a comments section where it makes you look less than (not that you care of course)
No I don’t care.
This bears repeating: it’s not just violent crimes. Get popped for a DUI, or driving without a license, or shoplifting, or whatever would require arrest, and you’re in jail. The ICE cases in question don’t require an act of violence.
Jose Jimenez under arrest and in jail on suspicion of minor in possession or the like shouldn’t have to stay in jail because ICE thinks he’s an illegal immigrant. If ICE wants him, they can show a warrant and come arrest him. But the jail is under no obligation to hold someone without a judge’s order.
Jeff Mann and (I am amazed enough to say) Victor Hill are doing the right thing. And good luck trying to force a sheriff in Georgia to do anything a sheriff doesn’t want to do if it isn’t in the state constitution or state law. For the most part, they are the one set of political leaders in Georgia who are fully empowered to tell everyone else to go to hell.
Them and the Insurance Commissioner.
+1 for Mike
Even the underlings to the underlings at the OCI have been know to tell you to go to the land of fire and brimstone.
WhooHoo!!! Common ground with Mike! Who said it couldnt be done?