May 9, 2017 10:47 AM
One Pro-Handel Ad, One Anti-Ossoff Ad Released in #GA6
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce has released an ad in support of Karen Handel, while the The Congressional Leadership fund has released an anti-Ossoff ad. The runoff for the GA-6 election is June 20th.
U.S. Chamber Ad
U.S. Senator Johnny Isakson (R-GA) shares that he is supporting and voting for Karen Handel in GA-6, the District he was born in. He touts her knowledge of the district and her experience.
Congressional Leadership Fund
In an ad entitled “Thank You, Georgia,” San Franciscans say thank you to Georgia for allowing them to have a chance at another Pelosi-like Congressman in Jon Ossoff. The ad also states that Californians are the leading funder of the Ossoff campaign.
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There’s a grand strain of irony for an ad run by a SuperPAC paid for entirely with out of state money attacking someone for taking out of state money.
Also, just watching the images, San Francisco looks like a fun place to visit: The Golden Gate Bridge, Fisherman’s Wharf, Chinatown, and Streetcars? It’s not that different than a ‘visit California’ ad, except for the various old right wing ideas of what a San Franciscan looks like (hippies, etc.). If you asked someone today what represents the Bay Area, it’d probably be either Steph Curry or the Silicon Valley guys.
I have been trying for some time to get a position statement from Mrs. Handel on climate change. With all the money and attention paid to this race, Mrs. Handel has no public statements I can find on Climate. If I am wrong about this I would appreciate if someone would point me to a source for her position.
It’s difficult for me to imagine that anyone would not think this is something GA06 voters need to know about their candidates.
“It’s difficult for me to imagine that anyone would not think this is something GA06 voters need to know about their candidates.” The voters don’t care about this issue.
I’ve been reading detailed polling data out of the 6th district for years. Global warming/cooling, climate change or whatever you all happen to be calling it these days is no where even close to being on the radar of 6th district voters. But you can keep coming to a blog and asking the same question. You will keep getting the same response. Nothing, because it isn’t a concern in this election or in any recent election in the 6th district.
I’d argue that the voters care- but in the sense that they just don’t want any candidate that’s too progressive on climate change. They prefer a moderate Republican line, which line may actually be too difficult for a candidate to articulate. So it’s a high-risk no-reward issue, which frankly, a candidate would avoid unless necessary.
Most normal people, including me, believe that the climate is changing. We believe that humans are a part of the reason. We believe that there are things that we should be doing to make sure our planet is healthy for future generations. I grew up on a farm and I’m and avid hunter and mountain climber. I’m a conservationist for sure. I am not however a preservationist. The problem is that the left has allowed the crazies to take over the conservation movement and turned it into a bunch of anti-business Al Gore tools.
People don’t want a moderate on the issue. They want a reasonable and thoughtful person that doesn’t believe that putting hundreds of thousands of people out of work in the name of climate change is a good thing.
Oh Eiger!
Look at the CLC carbon dividend plan or CCLs carbon fee and dividend plan. Both plans raise GDP, raise employment, reduce deaths from respiratory problems and, oh yeah, bring down CO2.
A Carbon fee is supported by Trumps Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors. Not to mention Exxon and most of the worlds largest fossil fuel giants.
If we actually had discussions about this issue we would find out it’s not a partisan issue.
Let’s give it a try!
The reason that Exxon likes it is because it’s a scam and they know it. They can just “buy” more credits by building a new swamp for some ducks and paying a farmer to plant some pines in his pasture. It doesn’t actually reduce carbon emissions. The left has made this partisan issue. Not the right.
Hi Eiger, you need to read more about how a carbon fee works. Here’s a link to the conservative republican plan proposed by Climate Leadership Council.
https://www.clcouncil.org/mobile/
Agreed BTB. Candidates run from the issue. But if they are never forced to articulate and defend a position, there is no way for voters to make a rational choice.
Governing requires convictions and courage. Anyone who want to be my MOC should have a decent supply of both.
Eiger I would be curious to see the polling results you reference. Yale Climate Opinion publishes survey results by congressional district.
http://climatecommunication.yale.edu/visualizations-data/ycom-us-2016/
74% of GA06 voters think co2 should be regulated in 2016.
The fact that we haven’t had a contested election in decades can lead to the conclusion that no one cares about climate change because the issue never gets thoroughly litigated.
I believe that a competitive race will promote this issue. The fact that Mrs. Handel refuses to take a public position on climate further supports my point. If no one cared she would not be afraid to take a stand. Clearly it’s not like endorsing apple pie!
As I said in the post above, most normal people believe that climate change is happening this includes voters in the 6th district. My original context of saying that no one cares about the issue is in political terms. When you give voters a list of 12-14 “things” and ask them to pick their top five they care about the most when voting. Climate change has never been and won’t be at the top of the list for 6th district voters. It is always at the bottom. The list of “things’ are typically always standard and include, taxes, economy, abortion, terrorism, healthcare, and so on. This is not my polling and it’s not public so I can’t share. All I can say is trust me. You can trust me if you want or not, but this is not a winning issue in the 6th district.
Seriously Eiger.
Maybe voters don’t hold it high in their consciousness because the candidates don’t talk about it one way or another. It’s too important to let the subject fade just because it’s difficult to talk about.
Drew, you realize that given this subject matter, how difficult it’s been for ol’ Noway not to jump in on this?! Lol! However, you and Terry and Eiger enjoy this harmony. I can be my old sarcastic self on another issue – tomorrow!
Mr. Pope, There is nothing stopping her from making that connection herself. But she needs to have the courage to state that publicly. Plausible deniability should not be allowed.
Ossoff won more than 50% of the vote in 6 of 13 Dunwoody precincts. Snubbing the DHA will cause Ossoff to win at least a few more of the seven where he didn’t win a majority on 18 April:
“I heard [May 7] from the Handel campaign that they are not going to accept our invitation; the reason that they gave was they a have a scheduling conflict,” Dunwoody Homeowners Association (DHA) President Wittenstein told about a dozen DHA board members that booed when they heard there was not going to be a debate.
“But the email exchange just prior to that was …their question of whether or not [the debate] would be open to the public or if it was going to be restricted to Dunwoody residents or members of the DHA,” he said. “When I told them it would be open to the public, the next response was we have a scheduling conflict. It is unclear to me if they have a scheduling conflict or whether the fact there was no vetting of who is coming determined they would not participate. But they gave us a hard no.”
A debate would put Handel on record with respect to Trumpcouldn’tcareless and other issues that where GA-6 Republicans are at odds with Rubepublicans.
I posted in the MR’s today, but perhaps Charlie could shed some light on what Ms. Handel’s scheduling conflict for May 21st is, given that she’s ducking a debate – and that her team determined she had a conflict only after learning that the debate would be open to the public.
The runoff battle basically boils down to the area’s main water source, the Chattahoochee. South of there (Sandy Springs and the DeKalb portion of the 6th CD). Ossoff ran well ahead of the other candidates, getting 57 percent to just 17 percent for Handel and less than 10 percent each for the other candidates. North of the river, Ossoff got 43 percent, while Handel was second at 21 percent and Gary third with 13 percent. However, two-thirds of the nearly 193,000 votes cast in the first round were from north and west of the river (East Cobb and Fulton north of the river, like Alpharetta and Roswell). While 43 percent is a good showing for a Democrat in the northern and western side of the 6th CD, Ossoff will probably have to run a few points better than that to prevail next month (assuming he at least retains his support south of the river). If he gets, say, 60 percent in the southern part of the district, he might win the runoff by getting 45 percent in the rest of the district (if the same 2-1 margin north over south continues).
In the April 18 contest, Fulton accounted for 45 percent of the district’s total votes, compared with 48 percent last November in the not so close re-election for Tom Price. Cobb last month accounted for 32 percent (30 last November) and DeKalb 23 (22 percent last November). Thus, Fulton’s turnout was disproportionately low last month compared with November, which may have provided some boost for Ossoff.
Handel should win the Cobb portion of the district, which is the most Republican of the three counties that make up the district; but if she doesn’t, then Ossoff most likely will be the next congressman. Ossoff, who took a whopping 59 percent in DeKalb last month, certainly will prevail there.
View the results from the interactive AJC GA-6 map https://www.ajc.com/news/gen-politics/how-your-neighborhood-voted-the-6th-congressional-district-special-election-yesterday/lYhvrqCeGHWI1Xb1CzGFHO/ for Fran Millar’s Senate District 40 precincts http://www.senate.ga.gov/senators/Documents/Maps/Map40.pdf
I expect Clinton handily carried District 40 (augusta52?). Ossoff carried more than 50% in all but 7 of the District 40 precincts within GA-6, many by about 60%. I anticipate the dozen plus District 40 precincts south of GA-6 neutralize the 7 District 40 precincts in Gwinnett County (that are not within GA-6).
Millar has 19 years General Assembly incumbency. District 40 could be won by a Dem in event of a vacancy.
Dave B. according to the Daily Kos website (old “swing state project”), which released its presidential data for Georgia’s State House and Senate districts a week or two ago, Clinton indeed did win District 40 last fall, by about 10,000 votes (Clinton 54%, Trump 41%, Libertarian Gary Johnson 5%). Daily Kos noted SD 40 was one of 3 GOP-held Georgia Senate districts that backed Clinton (the other two being SD 6—Hunter Hill—and SD 40, President Pro Tem David Shafer). Hill has announced he is running for governor and Shafer has begun the work to run for lieutenant governor, so interesting to see how competitive those races will be.
As for how SD 40 voted in the 6th CD contest, with most of the DeKalb part of CD 6 being in SD 40, it would be a safe bet that Ossoff won a majority there, and he did—by my count, taking 55 percent in the district, with Handel a very distant second at 18 percent and Dan Moody third with 10 percent. (Ossoff got 57 percent in the DeKalb portion of SD 40 and 39 percent in the Fulton-portion of SD 40—the Fulton portion being the Sandy Springs “panhandle”.) SD 40 cast about 39,000 of the nearly 193,000 total votes of the SD 6 contest, so about 1 out of every 5 votes cast in that special election came from the SD 40 portion.
It really is sad how bitter you have become. I like Karen. Quite a bit actually.
I guess the reason that Pelosi is the recurrent albatross of Dems is that she polls as the worst? I find it hard to believe that many ppl in the 6th actually care abt her, or see San Fran as such a monolith of evil. Running an ad like this insults the electorate’s capacity to evaluate Ossoff for his own goods and bads.
Part of me also think that trying to frighten one of the more educated districts in the country about the evils of San Francisco is just kind of silly. The Office Park families of GA-06 have probably met actual, real life San Franciscans, and even visited it on business trips or as tourists. This kind of thing could play south of the fall line or up in the Hill County, but the current inner suburbs of Atlanta are a different beast, especially with Ossoff being on message about making Atlanta the Silicon Valley of the South by boosting tech jobs. Describing the Silicon Valley of Silicon Valley as lefty Gomorrah is a real dated play.