Rep. Hice Introduces Bill to Allow Congress to Carry Everywhere but U.S. Capitol
Rep. Jody Hice has introduced legislation entitled the Congressional Personal Safety Act (H.R. 2945) that would permit “Members of Congress to carry a firearm anywhere in the United States, except for the U.S. Capitol Building.”
Rep. Hice:
“Personal protection and being able to defend oneself against an assailant is part of the fabric of our Constitution, which is why I am an ardent believer in the Second Amendment. While Members of Congress are all average Americans, it is clear that we also have a bull’s eye on our backs. In light of recent events, it’s incredibly important that Congressmen and women maintain the ability to provide for their own safety, regardless of the city or state.
The Congressional Personal Safety Act will grant elected officials the authority to carry a firearm anywhere in America, except for the Capitol. Simply put, the right to bear arms is a right to self-defense, and I’m proud to spearhead this measure.”
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Extend it to every eligible US citizen or it’s Republican’s version of Congress exempting itself from Obamacare.
If it’s good enough for you all, then it’s good enough for us all.
Our lives are just as important
No special treatment. I’m licensed to carry why not there
Good!!! The sooner the better.
Even the White House?
Presumably “anywhere in America” also includes American airspace. Another example of the special privileges for the special people that work for us.
Andrew, thanks for the clarification—and congrats on your 51-49% projection for Handel yesterday—pretty close to the 52-48 final (or semifinal–pending provisional votes). What will Ossoff do next—find a state legislative seat to run for? Would he be willing to run for governor against Stacey Abrams and Evans? Or, run for the 5th District (I think he lives there) if John Lewis retires next year after 32 years?
Andrew – Interesting. How would you see Ossoff funding a rematch in Ga 6th in 2018?
Andrew – Your #2 is the heart of my question. I think a party hard pressed to cover its debts in 2016 and then compounding tapping out small donors in 2017 will have trouble convincing small donors to pony up in 2018 to refund Jon Ossoff in a run in the 6th, again. I think the party will have it’s hands full funding races they are competitive in – things will change by 2018 race. 8 months ago few gave Trump any chance. I do subscribe to Ossoff’s run to be a trial to introduce him to Ga 5th as Congressman Lewis replacement.
As to #3 – I wondered about how much PAC $ his mother steered into his campaign, and found it ironic that her PAC pushing women candidates [the ones she finds worthy] did not support Georgia’s first female Congressman.
As to #4 – Household income in Cobb & Fulton will sustain r’s in the 6th far more easily that the rest of the district. R $ run deep in the 6th. Too bad Independents can’t tap into the money.
A funding effort in ’18 will be really interesting to me if Ossoff returns to the 6th. The biggest mistake the dems made running Ossoff was not putting the r’s away in the primary – they allowed the r’s to have breathing room to bounce back in the runoff. Lesson learned.
Andrew – The PAC morphed from 2013 from when his mother bemoaned no women from Georgia in Congress. Nice article on the internet quoting his mother when she co-launched the PAC. “Clearly” applies.
Ossoff can’t beat a dud like Handel…after Trump…and a week or so ahead of the passage of Trumpcare. But he’s a competitive candidate? This is why the Dems keep losing.
You are right. This is a thread jack so I apologize as well.
In all of your calculations about a rematch in 2018 you fail to mention that Stookybury spent $0 and received the exact same amount of votes as Ossoff did after spending $30 million. So… yeah, good luck with thinking a democrat can win the 6th. If it was ever going to happen it would have happened two months ago in the original special election.
The raw vote total “Ha! Ha!” is so stupid given differential turnouts between Presidential, Midterm, and Special Elections. By that logic, it’s silly how Sen. Perdue spent $16 million to get 250,000 fewer votes than noted political talent Jim Barksdale. Good luck thinking he’ll win in 2020!
Yeah, I’m the stupid one that said Karen would win months ago and Ossoff had no chance. I wonder how all those people who gave money to Ossoff feel about the “raw vote total.” I bet they feel pretty stupid. Or at least they should. I’m glad you are laughing though after such a terrible night for democrats.
Cheers to your moral victory. I’m happy that you’re happy with the loss.
I’m not saying it’s a “moral victory” or whatever. I’m just saying: It’s a really stupid comparison to make, akin to a Dem saying LOLZ the NRCC/CLF/Handel wasted the millions more than Price they spent while losing a third of his votes.
My test was always was were the 1/6 or so traditional Republican voters in GA-06 that went Deal-Perdue-Price-Isakson-Clinton a one-off or people who could vote Dem downballot. The answer is, at least percentage-wise, that those folks are willing to abandon the GOP downballot now. Did we need a $60 million House race for the purposes of testing that? Of course not. But given it was a reasonable hypothesis that Handel (or other GOP Nominee) would have won that race by 20 at the start of the year, that’s a good sign for Dems in other districts nationwide, and in Georgia. As Augusta points out elsewhere, several GOP held state house districts went for Ossoff or were close. If, in 2018, people willing to poke the touch screen for Ossoff also vote Dem further downballot, that’s a bad sign for y’all, and something significant in the longer term for Georgia politics. Certainly more significant than Kyle Wingfield et.al. going “SCOREBOARD!” while proving Mark Twain’s old aphorism about “Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics.”
If we are talking about percentage points is it a lie a damn lie that Handel won by a larger margin than Trump did in November? You just keep on spinning sir. I really hope Ossoff runs again and I really hope democrats continue to waste money in the 6th.
In terms of percentage points, margin generally isn’t the right way to go, because it’s apples and oranges. You know why?
GA-06 2016 House: R: 61.7% D: 38.3%
GA-06 2016 POTUS: R: 48.3% D: 46.8% L: 4.9%
GA-06 2017 Special Runoff: R: 51.9% D: 48.1%
Spot the little extra thing in the middle there?
Notice what’s missing in the Congressional races? No Libertarian. So in November, at least 8.5% of Price’s supporters were willing to vote Clinton. This past race, Ossoff did 1.3% better than Clinton did. (In terms of percentage in GA-06, it goes Ossoff>Clinton>Nunn>2016 Rando>Obama>Carter)
The margin went up because Handel, either because the Libertarians stayed home or because some returned to the flock, improved on Trump’s percentage by 3.6%. But what that doesn’t show is any of the at least 8.5% of Price voters that voted Clinton coming back to the GOP fold. Which was the whole point.
So raw vote doesn’t matter and margin of victory doesn’t matter? Okie dokie. Again, just keep spinning. Whatever makes you feel better about the loss.
Saying “I’m upset that he loss and I wish he did better” is a perfectly reasonable response and sometimes the only thing that can be said. You should learn how to say it.
Me: Tries to analyze GA-06 results as indication of how district is changing and what this election showed and didn’t show.
Eiger: SCOREBOARD!
I can’t possibly figure out how Pope runs circles around you on Health Care Policy.
Congresswoman Karen Handel.
Private citizen that lit $30 million dollars on fire Jon Ossoff.
So yeah, look at the scoreboard because that is honestly all that matters at the end of the day in elections. You continue to pat yourself on the back and I’m happy to have this discussion with you after the 2018 election when you say “well, we didn’t lose as bad as we did last time. We will get it done in 2020.” Good luck with that.
“I can’t possibly figure out how Pope runs circles around you on Health Care Policy.” That’s actually quite funny in a lot of ways.
Pertaining to Hice’s bill, imo a better answer is national reciprocity for cwp which I notice now has 200 co-sponsors.
As for your numbers gaming, you cannot really extrapolate open seat results to contests involving incumbents imo. I think the dems have to be able to win situations like cd 6 before they begin seriously consider taking the house.
Neither, and disagreeing isn’t trolling. It was an uphill battle but certainly winnable. For all the Dems supposed enthusiasm, voter turnout was way too low. And where were the extra votes Ossoff received Tuesday in April, when he actually had a real shot? Nobody wants fake Democrats. That’s been proven time and time again. Are the establishment Dems happy getting rich being the Washington Generals, or do they actually want to win and move this country in the right direction? Check out Paula Jean running against Manchin and Bryce running against Paul Ryan. I’m excited to see real people taking on the establishment.
More, yes, but that’s still only about 49% of registered voters. Only 23% of registered voters voted for Ossoff. That’s not enthusiasm. Do you know anything about Manchin’s challenger? And Sanders crushed Clinton in W. Virginia. You cite current polling as if it’s fact. It’s not. By now, it should be obvious the polling process and data have severe flaws.
All this data tells us that voters on both sides are tired of establishment candidates. Of course they all love polling. Consultants are paid win or lose, and make a fortune running expensive TV ads because the candidate fell “2 points.” It’s cheaper for cable news to pay pundits to discuss polls than reporters to interview voters about the issues. The list goes on. I want the Dems to win, finally, instead of patting themselves on the back for getting close. I hope they figure it out before it’s too late. Have a good night.
Trump is Making America Great Again in Iowa as we speak!!!
Lawton – sorry for the thread going wonky, but I just found this article where Jon Ossoff’s mother was bemoaning no women in Georgia’s Congressional delegation when she launched her PAC. http://www.gpb.org/news/2013/10/31/where-the-women-arent