September 7, 2017 6:30 AM
Thursday Morning Reads — Double Shot of Will Edition
Knock knock, it’s me again. Keep Jessica in your prayers as she’s undergoing medical issues. Hopefully she’ll be curating your Thursday Morning Reads next week. Until then, you’ve got me.
Georgia
- One of Georgia’s last surviving Blue Dog Democrats, Congressman Bishop, has competition.
- …A tiger was loose in Atlanta yesterday.
- Georgia hotels are filling up as Florida Man and Woman evacuate.
- Labor Day shenanigans: racist photos and LGBTQ discrimination.
- Patrons of Mercedes-Benz Stadium are complaining about post-game crowds.
Nation
- What is in Irma’s path and where it may go.
- If Silicon Valley becomes a political force, then it may reshape Democratic politics forever.
- Jupiter’s auroras are a hundred times stronger than Earth’s and, well, we just don’t understand why.
- A lobster predicted six more weeks of summer.
- Senator Menendez’s corruption trial started yesterday.
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More crying from The Hag….
http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/349548-clintons-score-settling-frustrates-democrats
Amazon just put out an RFP for a second US Headquarters. This would be MAJOR and I hope Pat Wilson, Nathan Deal, and Kasim Reed just cleared their calendars. Corporate welfare reservations aside, it’s freaking Amazon and 50,000 jobs. DO IT.
https://www.amazon.com/b?ie=UTF8&node=17044620011
Attended both pre season games at the Sphincter Bowl. Both probably no more than 50% capacity. We sit in 117, the section above where the Falcons enter the field. It was not a good layout at all.
Mah God, what have I done? I can’t wait for the Green Bay game. Yes I can.
When you read those tweets about armchair architects, and means of egress, they know what they are talking about. It is a 20 minute walk from our seats, around 2/3 of the stadium to the first outside exit. I can’t imagine trying to make it that far in a smoke filled environment. One smoke grenade in a bathroom will trigger a …I can’t even comprehend how trapped I feel in there, where I am.
We didn’t have waits for the bathrooms, but again, this was half full, or less for the J’ville game.
One of many things I know a bit more than a passing interest is the Life Safety Code and Building Code that architects use. And I’m telling you that they are RIGHT ON THE BORDERLINE for meeting capacity demands. But worse, there is something going on structurally on the south side of the stadium that forces everyone north.
Parking: There is a lot on the side of the stadium nearest our seats that, coincidentally, is the most expensive parking package offered. We took the Green Level – the lot next door to the College Football HOF. Stepping off, after being forced to circle back South, it is not much closer than the Green lot is. Still, it took 24 minutes to exit a stadium about 80% empty, and another 12-14 to hoof it back to the car only to find the Undertaker threw Mankind from the top of the cage from a height of 16 feet (4.9 m); (22 ft if including angle of the fall) and sent him crashing through the Spanish announcers’ table, which triggered announcer Jim Ross to famously shout, “Good God almighty! Good God almighty! That killed him! As God as my witness, he is broken in half!”
Would you like some cheese with that whine?
They play the Packers, of course there is Cheese…
Only The Undertaker knows
#FirstWorldProblems
Also… rest rooms do not have smoke detectors, they work off of localized heat detection from the sprinkler head which only activates theone or two sprinklers involved, which trips a flow switch and sounds alarms in that single fire/smoke compartment sector and close the horizontal exiting door for that compartment only. Same design used in hospitals and correction centers. If a stadium has say 12 fire/smoke compartments per level, in all likelihood comatyment1 will not know an alarm was sounded in compartment 7 so panic is not created stadium wide.
What you are talking about is not emergency egress, but controlled egress. Most modern day stadiums use a little known section of the both Life Safety Code NFPA 101, and the IBC series to do a calculated egress design simulation. I am going to go out on a code related limb and guess the marked egress paths have smoke evacuation and control systems, secondary shuttered routes that are not marked and hidden points of entry and exit for traumatic egress that the general public do not know are there. A controlled egress has the legal min. points of exiting a structure in order to control flow and the timed release of people, for the max. number of people per each level.
The first thing that comes to mind is ‘This way to the egress’.
I went back and looked at the stadium layout. Gate 1 is over by the SW side of the NewDome™. Doing a google pedestrian walk, that puts us about .7 mile or 18 minute walk from that gate. Not bad. We will try that next time.
Re: emergency exits, ever since the Rhode Island fire, I have always been diligent about seeking out the nearest emergency exit. And I try to sit nearer the only other one out beside the one in (think upstairs at SOB). I didn’t see any.
5-10.1.3
Access to exits shall be marked by approved readily visible signs in all cases where the exit or way to reach it is not readily apparent to the occupants. Sign placement shall be such that no point in the exit access is more than 100 ft (30 m) from the nearest visible sign.
The prequel obligatory preflight warning of emergency does not indicate at all these special exits. It just says go up, left or right to the nearest gate, and then exit.
I’m telling you the South side of the stadium is as far away from any exits than the people at the top decks and I can see in a panic, hitting the hall to exit, and not even being able to enter it from the portals because bodies.
Also it is easy to smuggle handguns and small bombs now; if you just put it in your cap and hold it above your head when going through the security machine.
I hope I can get parking at the new lawn deck.
Let me say first I have not seen the full plans or Life Safety plan for the stadium. I would think based on your experiences with night clubs, and Assembly occupancies you have the right idea with your LSC citation (which based on the numbering system is from a pre-2000 Edition of the LSC). The actual code is located in section 7.10 of the current edition enforced in this state (2012). In a conventional Assembly occupancy, this 100 foot requirement to see a sign (which in a straight line of vision could technically have signage at a maximum of 200 feet) would be enforced on the “not readily apparent to the occupants” definition. I would assume that each level and fire compartment has the min. signage for the min. legal egress load per exit per compartment. This is a wholly prescriptive requirement approach to enforcement and design used on the min. allowed routes of egress. However a structure can add additional egress routes which when used (shutters that automatically open directly to other egress paths, like when we counter flow I-16) could met the requirements as being readily apparent to the occupants which would not require additional signage. Reasons to ‘hide’ these routes, are crowd control and not letting bad guys know where every exit could be.
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As I mentioned above, stadiums are normally designed using a subsection of the Life Safety Code, which can be found in LSC 101A, Guide on Alternative Approaches to Life Safety. They require a Life Safety Evaluation (LSE). Some require egress timing models (how fast can you empty a stadium) smoke and fire modeling simulators, and a smoke Evacuation model. Large stadiums also use horizontal egress, and fire compartments. In a health care occupancy, a hospital can not be fully evacuated at any point in time. If a fire starts in a patient room and spreads to two other rooms, your not going to evacuate the surgical unit on the same floor 2000 feet away that has a person hooked up to a heart bypass machine. Healthcare allows a hospital to have fire compartments. Horizational exits could reduce the required number of egress paths off a level based on total occupant load by shifting a population from one fire compartment to another, as they do in prisons. We are not going to fully exit a super max prison, but you can relocate a person to a safer compartment, buying the occupants an extra two to three hours of safety to put the fire out. You can apply the same concepts to large stadiums.
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In theory you can apply alternative concepts to small assembly spaces (like a 400 person concert venue) over the more restrictive prescriptive code if one is willing to justify the cost. A smoke evaluation for a smoke evacuating system in a small concert hall could cost $20,000 to run and calculate the fan and louver sizing, plus another $60,000 for the roof level fans, automated door and louver hardware and the laser detection system to activate the system, when adding 3 extra marked doors could cost only $5,000 tops.
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Here is some info on large scale alternative methods.
http://www.nfpa.org/news-and-research/publications/nfpa-journal/2014/july-august-2014/in-compliance/nfpa-101
http://www.nfpa.org/news-and-research/publications/nfpa-journal/2014/july-august-2014/pov/perspectives
Trump’s OSHA no longer provides ready information concerning employment-related fatalities. OSHA readily lists in Georgia only the two that resulted in OSHA fines, when the AJC reports there have been over two dozen fatalities. Maybe worker deaths don’t matter as much if there wasn’t a OSHA violation, and heaven forbid the administration would want to make it easier for interested parties to study deaths that could result in suggestions to changes in regulation that would prevent deaths.
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Indeed cut worker regulations that will eliminate fines connected to fatalities, and workers will be safer than ever!
A little spat at the jail? http://www.dailyreportonline.com/id=1202797394898/Fulton-Sheriff-Strips-All-County-Law-Enforcement-of-Jail-Surveillance-Access?mcode=0&curindex=0&curpage=ALL
All the Florida folks got the pet hotel rooms before I started looking Tuesday night. Seriously. Everything was booked solid through Sunday night. I called every major chain reservation center and I finally have a room by the Mercedes-Benz Stadium for just Monday night through Wednesday for a rate more then I or my credit card wanted to fork over. So I’ll be drive out of the coast early Monday morning if it stays on the current path. It was either that or the Four Seasons when I booked before midnight. My Friend got lucky and got a Statesboro room cancelation after they moved the Southern game.
If you can don’t wait until Monday to leave. The roads will be terrible then. It’s going to hit the Georgia coast. Just don’t know how bad.
My hotel called around 2:00 and they got a cancelation for Sunday night so I’m bumped up to Sunday Morning for leaving now. YAH me!
Where are you gonna stay? What city? How far away from Sav are you able to get?
Atlanta for now.
My worse case was going to be spending the night in my office since they will start closing the bridges off the islands when the wind gets over a certain point which WTOC was guessing would be after midnight. and start out about 4:00 am from downtown to avoid the high gusts/mega bands. Glad that’s no longer necessary.
That’s good news!
As of 8AM SATURDAY, I-16 will be westbound-ONLY all the way from SAV to Dublin.
They could start now. I 95/I 16 interchange is so backed up, north bound containers being hauled back towards the downtown on I 16 east to US 17 over the Talmadge Bride towards other exits onto I 95.
Dont wait too long and stay safe. My parents and sister are lucky in that they have me up here in metro Atlanta and my brother in Athens that they can hunker down with. I cannot imagine them having to deal with finding hotels in all this in addition to all the other evac plans.
I keep thinking thoughts of a really strong wind to push Irma back towards the east. But that old biddy has a mind of her own and is just determined to hit Savannah.
Did you just assume that storm’s gender??
heh…
These hurricanes are Trump’s fault. Best ever post. https://www.facebook.com/Smorez.Dani/posts/10215017272612426?pnref=story
I am so shocked…
http://m.washingtontimes.com
Your link is to the home page. You are shocked the Washington Times has a home page?