October 18, 2018 6:30 AM
Morning Reads – Thursday, October 18, 2018
If you’re as ready as I am for Election Day to just hurry up and get here…clap your hands.
Peaches
- More claims of voter suppression…
- …and the ACLU says handwriting is a problem
- Kind of frightening and not in a Halloween way
- Heartbreaking stories continue to come out of South Georgia
- …and while it may not affect the market, it’s hurting our farmers
- Georgia kids are smart!
- Savannah Port continues to impress
Jimmy Carter
- Democrats have raised a whopping $1 billion this election cycle
- Pelosi and Donald Trump’s manhood
- Judges, judges, and more judges
- Biden doesn’t want impeachment
Sweet Tea
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I believe in being fiscal conservative except where the pursuit of science is concerned.
https://www.lmtonline.com/news/article/As-NASA-s-prized-telescopes-falter-astronomers-13316847.php
i too am ready for election day, but the way several of these races are going, there is a really good chance for bonus elections for a few of them
When you said “more claims of voter suppression” I thought it was more, in addition to the story of the folks and the bus. Thank God it’s only the same voter suppression we were discussing.
“the same voter suppression” its sad we have ANY voter suppression, but you know what? Things like this only stoke more black turnout. When you are caught trying to restrict a certain group from voting, they become that much more determined to do so. Black voting percentages will probably be a lot higher than white.
What I haven’t seen reported on yet regarding the 53,000 ‘pending’ registrations is this: I believe the law (HB268) says the SoS has to reach out to the applicant to let them know their application is on hold. Have they done that? To all 53,000? Have they gotten any responses back? How many? Are those being vetted and processed?
And when did the bulk of these 53,000 applications come in? How long have they been sitting around?
The most relevant language I can find is this:
343 (1) The board of registrars matching the Georgia driver’s license number, identification card number of an identification card issued pursuant to Article 5 of Chapter 5 of Title 40, or the last four digits of the social security number provided by the applicant with the applicant’s record on file with the Department of Driver Services or the federal Social Security Administration;
and
370 (4) The voter application shall be rejected if the Georgia driver’s license number, identification card number of an identification card issued pursuant to Article 5 of Chapter 5 of Title 40, or last four digits of the social security number provided by the applicant is not verified and the applicant fails to present sufficient evidence to the board of registrars to verify the applicant’s identity within 26 months following the date of the application.
I don’t see anything about hyphenated names or street numbers not matching exactly. So is there some discretion allowed that they are interpreting very strictly?
http://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/en-US/Display/20172018/HB/268
I think this process of verification (is there an actual process?) is what the ACLU suit is about.
Here is the lawsuit:
https://campaignlegal.org/sites/default/files/2018-10/GA%20FINAL.pdf
And here is HB268:
http://www.legis.ga.gov/legislation/en-US/Display/20172018/HB/268
More on the Facebook fraud
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/facebook-corporate-bad-actor
In the new spirit of Glasnost here, I am posting a story of an FBI agent who is heading to the hoosgow for four years for leaking and I am wondering if this sentence might be indicative of the type of punishment that might await some of the other FBI higher-ups who’ve engaged in leaking of various kinds in the last two or so years.
From the article…”He was charged with one count of unauthorzed disclosure of national defense information, and one count of retention of national defense information.”
https://kstp.com/news/kstp-terry-albury-fbi-minnesota-sentenced/5113351/
Isn’t it treason if you try to overthrow an elected president or determine the outcome of a presidential election? It should be far worse than 4 years don’t you think?
Another story I will link is about the Clinton’s still hanging around and whether or not it’s good for the Dems now or in 2020. I have to admit to laughing out loud in one instance at Mrs. Clinton being characterized as a “Halloween ghoul…” Funny term. At least to me. I would welcome the opinion of others as to whether or not the Clinton’s have overstayed their welcome.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/dear-god-hillary-clinton-please-just-go-3
Well, that is written by a GOP operative. Frankly why is the press following the Clintons around? It’s not like there are not other things to report on. People like you seem to be obsessed with everything they do or say. I know for Republicans it is because they got beaten 3 times by Bill and then Hillary got more votes than Trump. Why are you so obsessed with them?
I hope the next lib gets more popular votes from California yet gets another electoral college whoopin’! Every time you say that Hillary was leading at the end of the 3rd quarter of the football I just have to laugh. Get over it !
And each time you howl about the electoral college it makes me think you might try to enroll in a junior high civics class!
Thanks for proving me right. The fact that Trump lost the popular vote and is a very weak president really sticks in your craw apparently. It’s one of the reasons Trump is historically unpopular.
Carolina….what were Obama’s approval ratings at this time in his presidency compared to Trump’s? Uh oh!!! Wrong again!
Obama’s approval ratings were higher than Trump’s are now. Obama was at 46.4 and Clinton 46.2 at this point.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
Nope, you’re the one that is wrong. You need to quit getting all your information from wingnut welfare.
Dang Rasmussuan has Trump 5 point HIGHER than the paragon of popularity ! And Trump has had a horrible relationship with press not a lap dog for him!
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-approval-rating-obama-higher-1054927
Or as of yesterday, Rasmussan has Trump at 47%. You have Obama at 46.4. That is fine by me!
And we know the polls are always skewed to favor libs.
Oh it is closer though. But not as infinitely small a difference like Elizabeth Warren being whiter than Ivory Soap!
Please allow me to weigh in, Carolina. The fact that Trump lost the popular vote is of no relevance to…anything. He won the Electoral Vote. The only prize that any rational presidential politician would seek. The only one seemingly upset, well, is you!
Dude, Rasmussen is one of the worst polling outfits out there but I’m not surprised to see you quoting them. 538 uses all the polls and does not cherry pick like you are.
May I recommend a hot cup of tea, Carolina? I also find deep breathing exercises to be extremely calming…
Noway what you don’t realize is losing the popular vote goes directly to his weakness and lack of support. Yes, the EC put him in office but apparently you nor your conservative fellow travelers don’t understand that you have to have the consent of the governed to be able to govern. Trump does not have the consent of the majority of Americans. The more wingnut welfare he pushes the more the rest of the country pushes back. You cannot have a far right agenda pushed by a minority president and not have the people of this country push back against you.
These are the Gallup number for roughly the same amount of time in office:
These are the 538 numbers:
Approval:
Disapproval:
Considering there usually a +/- of 2%, there is not much difference between either of them. Consider this topic dropped.
What the heck? Lawsuits Say City of Statham Illegally Arrested, ‘Banned’ Citizens From Public Property https://www.law.com/dailyreportonline/2018/10/17/lawsuits-say-city-of-statham-illegally-arrested-banned-citizens-from-public-property/
I personally like Hillary showing up like a pop- goes- the- weasel! It gets republican voters to the polls in droves!
Republican voters are not going to vote based on Hillary. However there seem to be a lot of demoralized Trumpers these days with his constant defense of muderers, traitors and the like.
If I may. I’m just not seeing the “demoralized” Trump voters. I saw none as I voted Monday. As an aside, our president is having another of his well-attended rallies tonight. Missoula, if not mistaken. I find stories in the mainstream media that outline any dejected Trump voters as, well, disingenuous and clever efforts to suppress Repub voter turnout.
So you’re saying that Trump voters are excited to vote for someone who has no problem siding with people that chop up people? Only anecdotal but the Trumpers that I know have gone silent.
“Gone silent.” I must tell you with all humbleness, I am not surprised. It’s as I predicted. They’ll vote for Repubs on Election Day.
Caroline, are you truly an idiot? How about a little final evidence and then let him take action? Hmmm? Maybe you prefer him to draw a few pink lines in crayon on the dust or send cash in pallets….. in your case you would have already hung Kavanaaawwwnnaaawww…with no evidence! Hope no one is your family gets accused of something….
Oh I thought we were toning down the rhetoric. But here is Buttercup talking about folks she disagrees with saying they support murderers, kiddy molestors and gosh knows what. Go figure. Do you see a pattern here?
Good thang she aint the hangman, they would have to build more gallows in a hurry. Heck you don’t need no trial, you got the prosecutor, judge and jury all rolled up in one ball with her!
Civics class please. Immediately…before you post something else asinine!
Nope, gone silent because they are demoralized.
DTM he already has sided with the Sauds. He is not going to take any action against the Sauds just like he took no action against Putin. It’s a total repeat of how he behaved during the Treason Summit. As a matter of fact he compared Kavanaugh with the Sauds. I wonder how old Bone Saw Brett took that one? He probably thought being compared with murderers was a compliment.
Why are you always bringing up molesters or those that support them? I just point out that you are bringing them up.
I bring links to back up what I’m saying. All you bring is Gish Galloping regurgitated wingnut welfare.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/10/16/trump-says-rush-condemn-saudi-arabia-over-khashoggi-similar-kavanaugh-accusations/1664413002/
To my brother from another mother, DTM. As you can see, I have radically changed my posting style. Having said that, arguing with our opponents on this site is really pointless. They’ll dispute anything our side posts and they will continue, it seems, with perjoratives. Behold, I give you Carolina…in full bloom, no less -> “constant defense of muderers, traitors and the like.” I’m still trying to figure out who the traitors are from their perspective. So, I’m just gonna post in my usual manner. They will like them…or not. I plan to get my satisfaction on Election Day. Now, I’m off to fine dining at Myrtles with the wife, followed by the President’s Inspirational Rally in Montana.
NO!!!!!! I was really digging into the new Noway. Bring him back.
Have my posts since mid-day been measured and polite! The New Noway is right here! Keep on digging!
I am just reading some now, and notice the difference.
A definite improvement, old timer.
Noway, you are bigger man than I and certainly with a better track record … but both of our records are far better than many haters on this blog! You still think Abrams loses by 5? I will go 5.1 oh great one!
Most assuredly I do. 5 is on the low end. Do I seem like Alfred on Batman? With my new respectful cadence?
Okay, too much is TOO much!! 4,000+ Hondourans headed to storm America’s international border. NGOs going down there and recruiting, bringing in vans that stop and let them out for photo ops, then paying $5000 per family to drug cartels to smuggle them into the US. And these pictures don’t look like families to me – mostly young men. Homeland Security reports that there are repeated sexual assaults on women and children in these caravans, and it is all beyond belief to me.
The NGOs have coached them to claim the magic words “critical fear” when in reality it is all about economics. Poor people who find the US taxpayers to be the land of milk and honey, as well as illegally taking jobs away from lower class Americans. This madness has got to stop!! I’m sure you could round up a bunch of poor Americans who would love to storm the borders of and enjoy the luxury of Bill Gates estate, Bill & Hillary Clinton’s estate, Barack and Michele Obama’s estate, the Kennedy estate, etc. of wealthy Democrats (who created this madness) around the country, who have inflicted this chaos on the middle and lower class Americans.
According to the recent US Census Dept. update, there are over 24 million illegal aliens living in America, plus all the tens of thousands who have crashed the borders since that update. Word is out around the world that economic migration into the US is open, all you have to do is walk in and usurp the good life that neither you nor your country did anything to earn.
This is foreign aggression, and the barbarians are storming the gates. Both Dems and Repubs in Washington had better get busy helping President Trump protect the sovereignty of THIS country, instead of sacrificing us to other countries.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/honduran-migrant-caravan-grows-4000-amid-spike-u-s-border-n921286
It seems Trump shares your alarm and concern. He’s gonna send our troops to the border to stop it. Close the southern border. This is a deliberate invasion. He needs to tell Mexico to not only stop the illegal advance through their own country but to physically turn this invasion back from whence it came.
It sure is a deliberate invasion, and I just hope he does that. I heard about this while driving home this afternoon, and they were rattling on about “not in the budget” b/s. POTUS needs to call out the National Guard or US troops to defend the southern international border, close it until further notice. Give the US system time to process all the people already inside our borders illegally, as well as time to assimilate, Americanize all the foreigners who are here legally but instead of assimilating have set up microcosms of foreign countries in our midst and refuse to even speak English in the public square. They either want to be Americans or they don’t. If not, there’s the road (or a boat).
Nothing in the budget is more important than protecting this country from invading hordes of people who are at the very least thieves, stealing from American taxpayers and workers. And at worst, violent mobs in the streets of America and our nation’s capitol, accosting US Senators and Congressmen in the halls and elevators of the US Capitol Bldg, disrupting American civilization, flooding the US with drugs and human trafficking, murders, rapes, breaking into homes and businesses, etc. of uncivilized behavior to no end.
I guess it’s pretty clear that I’m hot about this – it has to stop before it’s too late and Americans lose total control of our own country.
Best post I’ve read in six months!!
Thanks, I figured you might be on the same page with me about this. I think too many of us have slept through what was going on, never dreaming that our government would let things get this bad. But, by damn, it’s time for them to stand up and protect us and our way of life!
As a rhetorical question, how many of our fellow “Deplorables ” heard Trump say the part about closing down the border and putting troops there to keep us safe?? Millions! How many were just regenerized in there resolve to vote? The same millions!
Yep. It’s time for Washington bureaucrats to get out of his way and let the big dog hunt!
Ride on Sally!
Okay, DTM! Get a load of this — how many do you guess are embedded in the 4,000+ barbarians headed to our country?
How many have already come in with other caravans, terrorist cells just waiting for word from ISIS leaders?https://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2018/10/100-isis-terrorists-caught-in-guatemala-as-central-american-caravan-heads-to-u-s/?utm_source=t.co&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=corruption%20chronicles
Alright, this topic is done. Drop it.
Andrew, please. Sally is expressing an opinion. Address what you don’t like about his sentiments. Not the fact he went in a direction that you did not like. Instead, have that discussion you say your side wants.
Noway, ACP exhibits preference for today’s Marxist Liberalism tactic of shutting down people who have an opinion or facts that don’t fit their narrative. True fascism. Sad.
I haven’t seen any links to support some of the more interesting “facts”.
I would suggest you respond to some of the above questions with sources, otherwise it does just seem like a rant, rather than constructive commenting.
Wow! You wrote that long post while I wasn’t looking! I’ll try my best to respond to it all – before I fall asleep.
Re your questions about NGO activity, I invite you to look at the State Dept. budget for funding numerous NGOs and the activities for which intended. H&HS Dept. also has a pot of money for the same purpose. Also spend some time reading the websites of some of those same NGOs and their own descriptions of their activities, including going to other countries and recruiting people to bring to this country, filling out their papers for them, providing transportation however necessary, etc. Also, have you never seen the videos and TV coverage of drug cartels being stopped at the border with trucks, when doors open, illegals pour out. Then behind them, the agents find bundles of drugs that had been camouflaged by the people.
Have you never seen the reports of the going rate being $5,000 for “a family”, which is why some children are being grabbed by adults who don’t have kids to be a pretend “family”, then left in US custody once the adults get across the border and we can’t find parents to reunite. I also have an acquaintance who runs one of the refugee/immigration NGOs here in Georgia who must remain nameless, but has told me quite a bit about the operation. I’m sure this article won’t cover all your questions, but it will get you started researching: https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/may/15/kirstjen-nielsen-cartels-make-500-million-year-smu/
If you’re really interested, you can go back through old GaPol posts to one where I gave in-depth information and links to government documentation on what I referred to as the big business of importing humans.
Yes, I agree that unscrupulous employers are part of the problem, but if the illegal aliens were not allowed to be in the US, employers would not be able to hire them. They’d have to hire regular Americans instead of passing them over. Do you really think it’s a good thing for US taxpayers to facilitate the conditions you describe? I don’t.
I disagree about our international border – it is very much physical boundary for our collective “house” or home. Everything America rests within. Just like the billionaire Democrats’ estate grounds. I only mentioned that because it is so hypocritical for the Dems to which I referred to do to other Americans things they know they will not to have to deal with. Refusing to protect fellow Americans who just don’t happen to be rich from having their lives wrongly impacted by unknown masses is not acceptable.
Re churches, my family church and all those I know have always provided food, shelter, medical care, etc. to people in other countries. It’s called foreign mission work. We have always provided help to Americans in need, called home mission work. Our government has always funded NGOs to provide foreign aid in other countries. But no church or NGO should break US law in the mane of being “nice” by aiding and abetting illegal migration into America.
I hope all this made sense because I’m quite sleepy, gotta work tomorrow. And if your questions were legit, maybe you will do some research along the lines I’ve indicated. Goodnight!
I get it. Just ignore it if you don’t like it.
I am glas that we have a president with a set of do dad’s to take this on.
How many of our liberal friends here want the illegal invasion to continue?
The President. Wheels down. Montana.
The biggest, sustained applause line thus far was when Trump said he’s gonna send the military to the southern border to stop the approaching mob! True coconuts!!
I have removed MattMD_Actual’s comment and everything under it.
Deep Dark, can you actually remove comments? I am not sure who you are. Fine by me if you do, the guy is about as hateful as Andrew.
Yes. Comments, posts, users…
I’m sorry you are having to monitor. My new posting style is here to stay. Hopefully you can end this in short order and get back to your family at night.
Cool! Go for it ! Should be plenty to choose from!
I am not telling you how to do your job of course but the low hanging fruit might be things like folks calling others racists, pedophiles, Nazi, misogynists, gay haters just off the top my head.
Oh and the occasional I wish you were dead kind of things. I figure it’s mostly a sticks and stones kind of thing but it does get old!
I understand, and it’s going to take some time.
Hopefully babysitting now will keep from banning later. At some point everyone needs to realize that comments are a privilege here, not a right.
Deep Dark, a couple of other things while we are talking… like if you don’t agree with someone you are supposedly supporting murderers.
Hmmmm. I don’t think so… Well treasonous is another one from the same note but what the heck…it was only 2 this time.
I think its funny and a bit sad. Why is anyone wound so tight? I get a chuckle out of it honestly. I am really going to miss it if the posts are not so insulting.
You done? I’m not sure which is worse the people you are talking about, or the fact you keep bringing it up every thirty minutes…
Probably a toss up!
“I’m not sure which is worse the people you are talking about, or the fact you keep bringing it up every thirty minutes…”
I know which way I’d vote.
“I have removed MattMD_Actual’s comment”
You might consider making a thread note to that effect after every deletion just as a show of force. Sort of like hanging dead crows in a corn field to warn off the others.
I plan on doing exactly what I did. The problem is that if I use the criteria that both sides are complaining about I would be deleting just about every other post. You guys are really bad at having calm, rational discussions. It’s depressing.
I don’t disagree…apparently the whole country is amped up and divided. And its done for political gain. Gin up the hatred to get the vote out. Hope iis winding down.
Heck you can.t find a single moderate democrat in Washington and the relatively few moderate republicans catch hell and are getting voted out.
It is hard to find common ground. If folks forgot about politics there are a ton of things that unite folks. Social media makes it worse.
“I plan on doing exactly what I did.”
I wasn’t criticizing. I’m glad you’ve found the time to intervene.
“It’s depressing.”
Yes it is.
Funny… Lindsey Graham is going to take a DNA test and see if he has more Indian blood than Elizabeth Warren!
Does anyine want to take a bet on that? How about you Noway? Are you willing to risk your undefeated betting record? I bet he has more Indian blood than she does.
Maybe he can get a job at Harvard as the second Indiana professor on staff.
Do you have a link for this?
Sure!
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/411592-lindsey-graham-im-taking-dna-test-i-think-i-can-beat-elizabeth-warren-on-amount
I think I will get this done. I hope I have some black in my lineage to show my golfing buddies!
I bet I have more Indian blood than Elizabeth “Ivory Soap” Warren! I bet my golfing buddies do too! Wouldn’t that be a hoot seeing a bunch of black guys claiming to be Indians so they can get some casino money?
Hey Deep Dark, can you tell us who made the fake posts from Down the Middle and NoWay about 2 weeks ago? I know you have to know who did it. It obviously is someone on this thread that does not like conservative voices.
It is not hard to guess who it was … I have it narrowed down to two. It took zero detective work to figure it out .
I would love for you to post who it was that was shadowing our accounts and trying to get us off of here. They deserve to be embarrassed for the dishonsty and hatefulness of it.
This is the type of censorship that we are seeing on college campuses as well as other social media sites. You can’t wear a MAGA hat without getting it knocked off, you can’t put a yard sign out that says Trump without being vandalized… folks are harassed all the time and encouraged by liberal leadership and I was surprised as hell some idiot would do this on this blog! I think the person that did it is an active poster on this site today.
Am I right? I would like to know had the audacity to do it while we both were still online.
Thanks for your help!
No.
I hate getting into conversations not about transportation, but after Michael and my grandmother losing her entire pecan crop just as it was about to mature, Sally, DTM, NoWay, south Georgia agriculture relies on immigrants to pick the crops. My uncle can’t find US citizens willing to work for him. Not only on driving the harvesters for the pecans (which won’t be needed this year because of Michael), but to install the irrigation systems, plant the trees, spray the roundup… what is your alternative to the fact that the largest industry in Georgia, agriculture, is dependent on immigrant workers?
And it isn’t just pecans, it is cotton, peanuts, blueberries..
I am sure you are stating facts.
Bring them in legally. I prefer not thousands coming over in caravans. Do you think those folks will be picking pecans? I doubt it.
That is a strawman argument and you know it.
I have a ton of friend in construction. And farming. Cant find enough workers. Bring them in legally. No they should not vote.
You know why democrats don’t want borders. The rest of American realizes they don’t need the socialist policies. Lets find folks whose votes we can buy. Same reason they want felons to vote and to suppress the military votes. No mysteries here.
Such BS. You left out that donks want illegals in the country to increase drug trade and sex trafficking in their ongoing effort to destroy the republic and the very fabric of reasoned society.
If you’d ever take off your partisan hat for a moment you’d realize that partial solutions have been at hand twice. Neither the Gang of 6’s decent proposals nor the House’s bipartisan efforts of last summer survived once the goper right got serious, and now gopers continue to use immigration fears as a campaign standby.
One thing you can expect if the donks take the House is that there will be serious attempts to handle problems such as ensuring a ready supply of seasonal farm workers, and other matters you would be less likely to support.
You clearly have no idea how the agriculture industry works in Georgia. Your pivot is, well, bless your heart. My family has been in agriculture in south Georgia since the 1800s. My aunts are DAR.
I’m describing real world situations my family is facing and you come up and accuse me of partisan sh*t. I was asking for a reasoned response to the question “How do we maintain Georgia’s agricultural economy when it relies on immigrant labor?”
I would really appreciate a reply from Ellynn (I saw your reply below). I know it is something the midwest is dealing with as well. Without immigrant labor, and this is an opinion based on my experience, agricultural economies, especially in the high value areas like raspberries, strawberries (one of Floridas biggest crops now since they produce two seasons off California), and other produce hand picked, what do we do without immigrant labor?
Here is the problem…. The Stephen Miller proposal is build a wall, AND lower the number of legal immigrates and work visas. Think back to last march or so when Graham and Durben and worked out a deal which the pres said he liked and to have the two of them stop by that afternoon, only to be blindsided by Miller, Kelly and Sens Cotton and Perdue to basically have the wall and DACA but limit all legal immigration… It was the famous ****whole meeting.
https://www.kentucky.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/tom-eblen/article210676214.html
Here is one of the problems. Trump cut the number of seasonal workers allowed to work way down. However he made sure he got all the seasonal workers needed for HIS properties while the little guy has to suffer and close or cut down his business.
These people don’t want to vote. They want to work. That they want to vote is the straw argument. They want to send money home to their families that they have earned picking up pecans after the sweeper has picked up most of them. And yes, pecans. My dad had to put a wallet in a mans mouth who was having an elliptic fit in the field and didn’t want to go to a hospital because he was not here lefather didn’t know that he wasn’t legal, but he is a true Christian and helped a man in need.
My family has been farming in south Georgia since they moved from Rome, GA in the 1880s. Pecans, cotton, cow’s,…. My aunt is a DAR (my grandmother thought it was too pretentious).
Apoligies for the non sequitur, but when did your family arrive in what became the US? I can trace my lineage on both sides to the 1700s.