November 19, 2018 8:48 AM
Morning Reads for November 19th, 2018
Good Morning from West Georgia! And Happy Thanksgiving Week!
- More wildfire news from California.
- Nancy Pelosi isn’t necessarily a shoe-in for Speaker.
- President Trump is talking about who he might fire next…
- Republicans had a secret weapon in the Florida recount.
- Benjamin Netanyahu will stay.
- The Brexit deal you have is the Breixt deal you have to keep.
- Nissan will see Leadership changes soon after “gross misconduct” was discovered.
- Hollywood threatens to boycott Georgia after the Democrats lose the election.
- If you want to go to John’s Hopkins University, Michael Bloomberg just gave over $1 billion dollars for financial aid…so now’s the time.
- And of course the most important news…weather report for the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day Parade.
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Same thing as I have been saying but better. Yes, this is a partisan conservative site. But the regular media will not report this so here goes: https://www.redstate.com/kimberly_ross/2018/11/17/democrats-claim-abrams-fact-checker-destroys-theory/
Summary:
1. The “1 million voter purges” were done in accordance with a law passed in 1997 by a Democratic legislature and signed by a Democratic governor. All secretaries of state have complied with this law and it has never been an issue or controversy till the Abrams campaign made it so.
The long lines: local issue as counties run elections in Georgia. Had nothing to do with Kemp or any other state official, and such issues have been chronic, especially in Fulton and DeKalb, for years, long predating Kemp or any other state elected official.
All the polling places closed: see 3.
I was actually harsher on Kemp than this guy because I am predisposed to disliking Kemp because of things like https://www.ajc.com/news/state–regional-govt–politics/georgia-clerical-error-data-breach-involving-million-voters/pf3GlsIFyuF5ifgRYy5GAJ/, the issue with the state archives etc. But note that Abrams’ Fair Fight Georgia will focus on changing 1. and 2. and not accusing Kemp of having anything to do with 3., 4. or anything else illegal or untoward.
Abrams is free to sue but the Supreme Court has already ruled that 1. and 2. are fine. As for 3. and 4. is Abrams going to demand that elections be run at the state level? Even elections for county and municipal offices and issues? So yeah, you are going to have a Republican secretary of state managing elections in the city of Atlanta, DeKalb County, Macon, Savannah, Columbus etc. Does anyone actually want this to happen and if so why?
Trump: “I went down to Florida. Rick Scott won and he won by a lot. I don’t know what happened to all those votes that disappeared at the very end. And if I didn’t put a spotlight on that election before it got down to the 12,500 votes, he would of lost that election, OK?”
I stated a month or more ago that when the GOP wins, it because Trump stopped voter fraud. And if they lose, it’s because of voter fraud.
Any words from “moderate” Republicans on multiple unfounded allegations of fraud? No? I have one for you, Sayonara.
So Trump is your standard now? If your argument is that Stacey Abrams is no more truthful, honest, trustworthy, ethical or moral than Trump then we have no room or reason to disagree.
A difference: there is a real segment of the GOP and the conservative movement called “Never Trump” that includes such prominent members as George Will. When there is a similar crowd on the left let me know.
I compare Stacey Abrams to Donald Trump. Take the voter access issue, and compare it to immigration. The rhetoric from both parties takes a portion of truth, and blows it up. Inconvenient facts are overlooked. The issues were shamelessly exploited in an effort to play to the base. Both parties are shameless demagogues, and not to be trusted.
I don’t compare it to immigration at all. Illegal immigration actually is illegal. It is a violation of federal statutes. Doing so once is a misdemeanor, doing so multiple times is a felony. It is a federal statute that many modern left-liberals and progressives – though in times past they had the opposite view – disagree with and do not wish to be enforced.
By contrast, there was nothing illegal at all in the manner that Kemp conducted this election. So you can pick another issue if you want: something that Trump says is illegal but isn’t illegal. Something that Trump says is a problem but isn’t a problem. That would be much more valid.
You can’t even say that about voter fraud because voter fraud does happen. It is rare and doesn’t amount to much but it actually does happen. I am not going to equate something true – illegal immigration and voter fraud where the only disagreement is its scale and whether it constitutes a true problem or not or whether any solution is worse than the problem – t Abrams’ outright falsehoods.
Illegal immigration …It is a federal statute that many modern left-liberals and progressives … do not wish to be enforced.
Well if we are going to generalize like that, can we agree that many modern conservatives are white supremacists?
It’s just pointless to try to have a discussion when statements like that are the baseline.
“can we agree that many modern conservatives are white supremacists?”
Lots of progressives actually do believe this and say so with abandon. So pick another example please.
Go Race Ranger, Go Race Ranger, Go Race Ranger, Goooooooooooooooo!!!
My point was in the way Donald Trump used the immigration issue, was similar to the way that Stacy Abrams used the voting access issue. The way they went demagogue on these two issues was very similar. Also similar was the amount of truth, compared to the amount of nonsense rhetoric.
Go back and find Jessica S.’s piece on the exact match law. Then you can at least be up to speed with the real fact-checking.
It would be helpful to publish the link on this.
Why? What would be most helpful would be for Abrams’ supporters to explain exactly what it is that makes Kemp’s victory illegitimate.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/18/politics/abrams-kemp-georgia-race-legal-winner-sotu-cnntv/index.html
I want the Stacey Abrams people to explain precisely what was wrong with Kemp enforcing state law in a manner consistent with now every other Georgia SOS, Republican and Democrat, has.
There are literally dozens of news stories about Kemp and the GOP’s efforts to suppress the vote over the past few years, many of which have been discussed here. You would have to have been on a years long sabbatical to a remote island with no internet to not know this. It’s easy to google now that you are back in society. Courts have already decided some of these issues. You can stop pretending to want to know the facts.
I have read many… too many … of those stories. They make the same points over and over. The AP story about 53k registrations on hold is frequently cited, even though it has some issues.
One of the problems with the election from hell is the lack of critical thought. Anything Stacey Abrams says is repeated as gospel. It is a dream story for the ankle biter media… racism, government corruption/incompetence, and racism, in Honey BooBoo land.
I don’t believe Kemp has ever disputed that number. And I also believe that it was the subject of a lawsuit in which it also wasn’t challenged.
And it doesn’t even matter what the exact number is. It is some number likely larger than 1000, or even 10,000. The point is that, no matter what the number is, he used his discretion to excessively try to purge these registrations.
And saying that all voters need to do is show up with ID isn’t really the whole story, is it? At that point you are just shifting the discretion to the poll worker. But if the (prospective) voter isn’t even in the poll book, the poll worker will not let them cast a normal ballot, it would be a provisional ballot, in which case the voter has to go back down to the county to prove that they are eligible, which they shouldn’t have to do if they should never have been removed in the first place.
The AP story is about registrations being put on hold. You shift in mid paragraph to talking about purging inactive voters. Which issue are you talking about?
Please, stop claiming that it is about the 53K because I read “Kemp purged millions of voters” in every story about this.
So you want to argue about what the exact number is? Or the time frame? You are missing the point. On purpose, of course.
I want to tell a story;
Some here may remember that I got a traffic ticket earlier this year. It was a BS ticket but I had to go to court to fight it. The ticket was dismissed. So I had to go down and defend myself against an overzealous collection agency hired by the city to generate revenue. This is very much like the hoops some voters have to go through just to try to cast a ballot.
Well guess what, the saga doesn’t end there. I recently got another notice from the collection agency accusing me of failure to appear. Apparently the city hasn’t sent notice to the collection agency that my case was dismissed. So now I have to go downtown and get a certified copy of the case disposition and send to Tempe, AZ. This is also very much like what a voter would have to do to have their vote counted if they were relegated to a provisional ballot.
It’s BS, and many Republicans are openly confirming that they need to suppress votes. It’s not even a secret. It was well documented that Abrams was conducting massive voter registration drives for the past few years, and Kemp has been trying to block those efforts every step of the way.
@Benevolus: I have never argued that Kemp – and the GOP generally – did no and does not try to reduce turnout of populations that do not vote for them. My point has always been that Kemp’s actions were within the law, and that these laws have been consistently upheld by the state and federal supreme court. What Kemp did was entirely legal, and the Abrams campaign and the press did everything in their power to create the impression that it wasn’t. The people who are talking about boycotting Georgia over this actually believe that Kemp used illegal tactics to keep Georgia from voting … that he removed legally and properly registered people who maintained their registration status by regularly voting off the rolls, and that he withheld voting machines from Fulton and DeKalb.
Please address the people who falsely claim that Kemp broke laws and sabotaged Fulton and DeKalb elections and not your personal frustration that Kemp chose to enforce laws that you personally disagree with. Because disagreeing with you is not illegal and it isn’t even immoral.
A few years ago Kemp tried to implement an exact-match criteria for registrations. He was challenged and lost that case. So the GOP legislature came to his rescue and passed a law that might have given him cover, so he started doing it again. He was challenged again, and a judge told him AGAIN to stop doing that.
Besides, just because it’s the law doesn’t make it right. There have been many things that were ‘the law’ that we don’t do anymore. But if you want to own being the party of voter suppression because ‘it’s legal’, I guess that is your prerogative.
@Benevolus:
Why yes. You do have the right to pursue a policy. Others have the right to challenge that policy in court and the courts have a right to rule on it. Your only issue would be if the courts told Kemp to stop (or to go) and he violated the court order. Otherwise you have no case.
“Besides, just because it’s the law doesn’t make it right.”
Here is the deal, Benevolus. I am not going to let you or your side be the arbiter of what is right and what isn’t right. You know why? Because you are always going to decide “what’s right” in an ideological, partisan manner that benefits you while waterboarding me. So no, a Republican secretary of state shouldn’t decide not to enforce a law because a Democrat running an office decides that the law is unfair. Another way to look at is this: there are a lot of laws that I believe to be unfair, immoral or what have you. I am not going to demand that officials refuse to enforce them and call them corrupt, racist, incompetent etc. for their refusal to adhere to my private and self-serving view of law enforcement and jurisprudence.
Or how about this: the next time that Republicans claim that a law is unfair and immoral and shouldn’t be enforced are you going to listen to them?
“For once, I agree with you.”
You agree with me more than you are willing to acknowledge. Have you identified where those tens of thousands of votes that Abrams claimed would force a runoff were? Or do you disagree that Abrams should have never claimed that those ballots existed when they obviously did not? You are going to shift the goalposts and move the debate rather than answering like you always do.
Yes, I acknowledge his role in making it harder for populations that vote overwhelmingly Democratic to vote. I freely do and have several times without being prompted by you or your ilk. I have stated several times that I disagree with Kemp on this matter and that I do not support Kemp personally or politically.
But here’s the thing: there is a difference between something being illegal and something that you personally disagree with. Kemp isn’t required to run elections in a manner that you find agreeable. He is only required to run elections that are legal. Kemp did just that. Abrams and her supporters are claiming that he ran an illegal, illegititimate election because Kemp did not run one that is in accordance with the progressive goal of maximum voter enfranchisement. Not only are Abrams, you and her other supporters lying in doing so but you all are hypocrites. Why? Because not one single election in Georgia has ever been run according to the standards that Abrams, you and the rest of the voters claim to want.
That would make every election ever in the state of Georgia illegal and illegitimate. Including Abrams’ own victories for Georgia House and in the primary over Stacey Evans. These issues that Abrams were raising now were never raised in the past by any candidate including Abrams herself in her own past elections. They were only being raised now because Abrams wanted to use them as a device to fundraise and increase turnout of her base. And because she hoped that they could be used to get a Democratic-appointed federal judge to invalidate the election and call a new one.
There is no issue, no principle at stake here but Abrams’ own interests. You can acknowledge that while still advocating same day registration, compulsory registration and all of the other items on the progressive checklist to expand voting participation.
I don’t know what you are talking about either. Is there something more specific that you want to refer to for discussion? Stacey Abrams is pretty smart and articulate. If she is making a claim she probably has a pretty good reason to make it. But that doesn’t mean she is above partisan hyperbole. Is that what we are arguing about? Stacey Abrams should sit down and shut up, but Team Kemp can say things like she is a “disgrace to democracy.”?
Of course it’s within Stacey Abrams’ interest to ensure that every provisional and absentee and other challenged vote is counted. Because the underlying presumption is that the votes that wouldn’t otherwise get counted would go more in favor of her political party.
Also, I support her efforts to raise the bar- and maybe, just maybe, the procedures to collect, count, and review votes will be tighter and more efficient now.
And I would support those procedures if she was a candidate or not. In fact, I would support anyone who advocates that we raise the bar to make sure our election procedures are accessible, fair and equitable to all, and effective — especially if that person was in charge of elections, say like the SoS is.
It’s just too sad that the person in charge of our elections for years hasn’t advocated for any of that- and in fact pushed for the opposite (from poor data security to not accepting cybersecurity help, to abuse of discretion on rolls, to trying to force a concession). The last issue is most vexing–because even if there were 10 identified ballots to be counted, and there was a negative 20% chance Abrams could win, you would still say to count the 10 votes.
But since he won, I am just gonna pray he does better. That he doesn’t advocate or sign regressive laws that make us lose business, or disenfranchise, etc. But call me skeptical.
Gulch, that is a brutally honest and truthful reply!
Are you talking about this? https://www.jurist.org/news/2018/11/federal-judge-blocks-georgia-exact-match-voter-id-law/
In any case explain to me what Abrams and others mean when they claim that Kemp suppressed turnout, disenfranchised voters and stole the election? What Abrams meant when she claimed that she felt that Kemp’s victory was illegitimate? Because if the election was run in a manner that was allowed by state law – and it was because if it wasn’t Abrams would have filed lawsuits with the state supreme court and the federal court to invalidate it already – what is it that makes it illegitimate?
It’s Thanksgiving week and as the year’s end approaches, a time for reflection.
When did you personally realize there was no floor to the GOP establishment’s acceptance of the ridiculousness of Trump’s opinion of himself? That you were experiencing the cult of a nude Emperor wearing clothes?
For me it was: “We have to prime the pump. Have you heard that expression used before? Because I haven’t heard it. I mean, I just… I came up with it a couple of days ago and I thought it was good.” https://www.economist.com/united-states/2017/05/11/transcript-interview-with-donald-trump
The was no Republican fiscal conservative shame when Trump stated that in an interview reported in an international economics and news publication. It’s no wonder Trump was surprised when UN representatives laughed out loud at his whopper when there was nary a GOP peep after the former.. The one thing Trump has proven is that it’s his party, and that the establishment GOP is OK with wherever he goes, though it may require a second visit.
Trump’s interview with the Economist occurred less than a week before DoJ appointed Mueller Special Prosecutor.
Seriously, what was the event, if you can recollect one, that caused you to realize it was the Trump party, and no longer the Republican party?
I Think We Just Found What it Takes…
If your house was burnt down. Others not so much.
Dave, what is the democratic party these days upon reflection? Tax increases, incompetence, spewing hate, open borders and no growth policies?
Dude!!! Glad you’re back! Andrew, are you glad DTM is back?! My buddies at Myrtles were asking where you went!!
It’s been an interesting two years. All of The Great Man’s triumphs for the country, promises made and even more kept!! I’m hoping we keep MS tomorrow. After that, Noway is gone for a good long bit. Nothing more to argue about or prove. Drew, B and Balance can have their long waited for echo chamber. Thanks again to TGM! He saved the country!
Waiting for the link to CPUSA.com and something something Venezuela.
Yep, but you don’t dispute it!
What if it turns out the next infrastructure bill sends 30 million rakes to California and tells them to get to work on those forest floors?
Raking America Great Again
If a leaf blower runs in an empty forest, does it make a sound?
Also those rakes will be in lieu of the dollars needed to rebuild “Pleasure,” CA.
At least they will be shovel ready for a change…. or should I say rake ready jobs?
Mighty callous of you, considering the body count, but so was the President. Tweeting that he might even consider withholding disaster relief funds because of California’s environmentalists (read Democrats) the day after the outset of the Camp Fire when people were still fleeing for their lives. Yesterday he flew in to speechify, couldn’t remember the name of the town he was in that had been destroyed and doubled down on the environmental blame. An accusation that is just as false as his claim to have heard about raking forests from the president of Finland. Besides that it takes one helluva reach to compare California’s climate is to Finland.
Meanwhile while this president wants to play politics there are a few thousand refugees with no home and no town.
And one from the left:
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/11/georgia-stacey-abrams-brian-kemp-election-not-stolen.html
Even this says:
I will answer their question … BECAUSE THE SUPREME COURT SAYS THAT IT IS OK. The voter suppression laws are entirely legal. The only remedy is to get a legislature that will repeal them and a governor that will sign the repeal law.
Good riddance! Now, prosecute her for her illegal acts. No more.
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2018/11/18/facing-suspension-by-governor-browards-election-chief-calls-it-quits-703498
Chief Judge Jack Tuter already ruled on this. Last I looked being incompetent is not a crime… yet.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-11-12/the-latest-scott-wants-judge-to-impound-voting-machines
LMAO!!!!! Your mental gymnastics is dizzying!!
I notice how there was a literal and direct assumption of illegality– in direct spite of all the recent cries that we’ve lost the way on the principle of “innocent until proven guilty.”
Guess what’s good for the goose–
Why did she resign?
Some interesting maps. “Fulton County, the heart of the Atlanta metropolitan area, rejected 1 out of more than 17,000 submitted absentee ballots, according to the secretary of state’s data file. Nearby Gwinnett County received a similar number of ballots, 20,000, but rejected nearly 1,600, or more than 7 percent of them.” Makes you go hmmmm
This was the counties, not Brian Kemp.
So dig in on those details. Who’s the Gwinnett’s Board of Elections Chair? What’s the partisan make-up of the Board? Of the County Commission members that appointed them? Who’s the top paid elections staff?
Will Noway call for the resignation and/or prosecution of this County Elections Chair if there was some over-zealousness or outside-the-bounds decisions?
It doesn’t matter. Stacey Abrams will blame Brian Kemp.
No details to dig into. Whether they followed a strict standard or a permissive one, the matter was left entirely at their discretion by Georgia law. Either claim that Gwinnett broke Georgia law by excluding those ballots, cite evidence to prove it or find another issue to champion.
Y’all are the ones blaming Gwinnett. My suggestion was that if you’re going to pass the buck to them, then you can’t just write their behavior off at the same time. Plus, if you dug in, you could provide actual useful details and novel information instead of all the re-hash.
Plus, anyone who knows, or is even skeptical of government, knows that use of discretion is often where the problems are. Ignore at your own peril.
Also, not all improper use of discretion is “illegal”– it can be just unethical or violative of administrative procedure.
Ohhhhhh, that’s all!! “I love the smell of rationalization in the morning. It smells like…desperation…” Lol!
Rationalizing what now?
No need to go hmmmm. Some counties used applied a strict standard, other counties used loose ones. For example, the AJC reported that some counties ignored the exact match standard and also counted ballots lacking addresses, birthdates etc. before they received the federal court orders telling them to. (Meaning that they counted illegal ballots.)
As I stated yesterday, ballots get spoiled in every election for a number of reasons, the most common of which are voter error. This has never been controversial before now and was only controversial this time because of Abrams’ posturing. Far more ballots were spoiled in Florida – and not just as a percentage of the population but a far higher percentage – than in Georgia and it was nowhere nearly as controversial because Gillum and Nelson didn’t claim that the election was being stolen from them – and start making those claims months in advance by the way – as the Abrams group did in Georgia. And as stated earlier, neither was Kemp’s alleged tactics an issue in 2016, 2014, 2012 or the primary election where Abrams beat Evans.
FWIW, Miss Abrams was 17k votes short of a runoff when the election was certified. At the start of the week, she was 22k votes short. She gained 5k votes from all that turmoil.
Abrams claimed that there were tens of thousands of votes that Kemp refused to count, knowing full well that the counting of ballots – as well as pretty much everything else – was in the hands of local officials and Kemp couldn’t withhold ballots in Fulton and DeKalb even if he wanted to. We should never forget to cite that whenever we talk about Abrams’ efforts here.
Don’t confuse our Libs with facts, Gulch!! They cannot stand the FACT they couldn’t rob the election!!!
Part of the ballots she “identified” were ballots the relevant Judge also declined to let be counted- where the voter was registered in a County different than the County of the polling place. I had mentioned previously that this was a stretch too far, but to be clear, it was an argument about which votes Could Be Counted, not votes that had a presumption of validity. Either way, a stretch, but an argument worth the shot.
What? An attempt to let stand as “valid” votes that were cast in the wrong location? You would argue to let that vote actually cast? I just wanna be clear as to your stand. So, if I lived in Cobb but voted in Polk, you’d want that vote to stand?
I personally wouldn’t argue that, or ask a lawyer to argue it.
But if I was the lawyer representing a candidate, maybe.
Like I said, a stretch of an argument, but an argument nonetheless. Without doing the legal research, I think you could argue that these folks could cast provisional ballots then prove their address within the County within the ten days or whatever.
You make arguments even if you don’t know what might stick.
What would your argument be to have that particular vote count? This I am really curious about.
Got it. Provisional…
Yeah, then you prove you live in the County of the polling place.
So in my example, I live in Cobb, voted in Polk. So I take my electric bill back to Polk to prove I lived in Cobb? and have that vote then count in Polk? Or what?
So, would you have them go back to their legal counties for the final casting? Or just let their mis-cast vote count where it was cast if they brought in the electric bill?
I think it would have to be the County of the polling place. Like they moved to a new County but didn’t update their voter reg.
That should never fly. Better boogie back to Cobb if you have any hope of having it count. Did Stacey actually advocate for a scenario like this?
Not sure if we got it exactly right, but generally.
It’s essentially wanting to let people update their registered addresses- on election day.
We’re not there yet.
SNL skit with Steve Carrell as Jeff Bezos:
https://youtu.be/rTb3GR6yrQI
Seems the violence in the whole country of Hondurans is not as bad as it is in New Orleans, Detroit and other cities in the US. So that “asylum from violence” card won’t play.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/tijuana-residents-protest-migrant-caravan-camped-city-192221898.html
And how about the Mayor of Tijuana’s red cap! https://www.npr.org/2018/11/19/669193788/shouting-mexico-first-hundreds-in-tijuana-march-against-migrant-caravan
When sarcasm gets it wrong…. Here ya go, a little better coverage on the coming shuffling of troops at the border: https://thehill.com/policy/defense/417503-pentagon-to-begin-drawdown-of-troops-at-border-report
This draw-down is because the initial order was for a set time and to perform specific tasks. Among the troops who will remain after construction engineers and logisticians start departing are helicopter pilots, planners, medical personnel, and smaller “quick response” teams of engineers who can help Border Patrol personnel shut down traffic at their ports of entry. I’m pretty sure POTUS will extend, continue sending any additional or replacement troops as needed.
I don’t think I can entirely blame Sally for the wrong-ness, as it’s probably a narrative that originated and propagated elsewhere. A narrative of faulty logic which then looked for any evidence to support it. A conclusion in search of any line of persuasion.
In this case, the fault(y) line is that The US=The Honduras.
Or is comparable in any meaningful way regarding living conditions.
You can’t presume anybody will be able to see through that line of “logic”.
Edit: There are of course possible ways to compare, but they are typically complex indices that account for a range of factors that aren’t just cherry-picked to reach a desired conclusion. It’s that deceptive cherry-picking that makes something “feel true” so as to convince the gullible that it must be true. And since it’s “true”, then the political conclusion must also be “true”.
“Ivanka Trump sent hundreds of emails last year to White House aides, Cabinet officials and her assistants using a personal account, many of them in violation of federal records rules, according to people familiar with a White House examination of her correspondence.”
Who could have possible known that government officials e-mails are supposed to be on government servers?
Now there’s a boob that didn’t fall far from daddy.
I wonder if she had a bathroom server, deleted tens of thousands of subpoenaed emails, has she been in Washington some 40 years embroiled in countless scandals and has she lie about it nonstop?!
Did she say she only had one device when she had 13 and did she claim to “wash” her devices in the dish washer? !! Did they find her hammers and Bleachbit?! Noway, keep saying Lock her up! She deserves it! Good try!
Is that goalposts way off in the distance there?
I guess it’s a good time to be in the goalpost moving business.
Who you gonna call? Two Men and a Narrative.
Clinton was wrong. And it cost her.
Daddy campaigned on it for months so not knowing using private e-mail address makes her an incompetent boob of a senior advisor, in Trump parlance, well-qualified, or she thinks herself above the law.
You make the call.
“The 5,800 troops who were rushed to the southwest border amid President Donald Trump’s pre-election warnings about a refugee caravan will start coming home as early as this week — just as some of those migrants are beginning to arrive.
The general overseeing the deployment told POLITICO on Monday that the first troops will start heading home in the coming days as some are already unneeded, having completed the missions for which they were sent.”
The missions: Puff up Trump’s ego and stunt doubles for ICE to pander to the base. MAGA.
I thought the mission was to protect the local polling places from the bull rush of migrants trying to cast votes for Hillary Clinton and Nancy Pelosi.
Then after going out and changing shirts, they go back in and vote for Obama and Al Gore.